in north carolina, joined by cash michaels, the court and for the wilmington 10 pardons of innocence project and a reporter for the wilmington journal where his been covering the case. then chavis, you served how many years in prison for your conviction and the wilmington 10 case? >> it was about five years. >> what would a part in mean? what's a pardon of innocence would mean the state of north carolina finally realizes the unjust arrest, charges, were all racially and politically motivated. it is time to 40 years later for the state to move this pain from that members of the community and from the state itself. it has been an albatross around this state's net for over 40 years. i think in the spirit of moving forward -- the federal courts to overturn the conviction in 1980. there is no question about our convictions. it has already been overturn. the state should remove the legacy of injustice, the legacy of inequality. we were trying to get the schools desegregated. the wilmington 10 was a scapegoat did. all of the information that came out shows we were completely innocent of the